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Geithner versus Krugman has become the new Israel/Palestine debate on the blogs. It’s an Economist’s cage-match, with fervent supporters on both sides, and much hyperbole slung by both camps. Because the economic arguments are so opaque, and because both men are so highly qualified, choosing between their solutions has devolved to questionable character judgments. Krugman is “shrill”, and “never liked Obama”. Geithner is a “crook”, and “is incapable of seeing the problems he helped caused”.

I think we can do better than this. I believe that if we look closely, we can discern some dynamics between the two men, based on objective evidence. Furthermore, this dynamic may serve as a clue to clarifying the debate, and taking us a step closer to deciding who is “right”.

First of all, let’s take it as a given that Dr. Krugman knows his economics. Not only is he a Nobel Prize winner, with a history of fairly prescient predictions, his politics are Progressive. We can reasonably believe that his economics are Progressive. In addition, his viewpoints are echoed by a veritable host of other strong economists.  “Krugman says so” is a strong argument, when Krugman is echoed by Stiglitz, Baker, etc, it’s an overwhelmingly strong argument.

Geithner is, relatively speaking, an unknown. The culture he comes from is suspect, and he does not have a Progressive history. In fact, I think it’s fair to say that were it not for President Obama’s obvious faith in him, all of us would clearly identify him as part of Wall Street. Despite Obama’s backing, Geithner is widely viewed as part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.

What is often missed is that Krugman regarded Geithner as a preeminent expert in the field.

Battle I: THE BANKING CRISIS

Data point: Paul Krugman believed Tim Geithner was an expert

In a Frontline article on the Lehman collapse, Krugman had this to say:

The Fed had, by the time of Lehman, understood that there are a lot of things that aren’t — commercial banks aren’t the Fed’s traditional responsibility — that can nonetheless have the same systemic effects as a bank failure. And in fact, when people ask me, “What can I read to understand the nature of this crisis?,” I actually point to a [then-head of the New York Fed Timothy] Geithner speech from June 2008, before Lehman, about the parallel banking system and how it has become vulnerable to the modern equivalent of bank runs. And that’s the source of our extreme fragility financially right now.

Krugman is saying, “if you want to understand the crisis, read Geithner“. That is a surprisingly strong, and undeniable signal of confidence. As recently as February 17 (the date of the FRONTLINE article), Krugman believed that Tim Geithner’s take on the crisis was not only correct, but even instructive.

When we actually look at the content of the speech, things get more interesting. In his speech Geithner included a section on crisis management, where he laid out his thinking:

No financial system will be free from crises, whatever the design of the regulatory framework or the rules of the game. The framework of lender-of-last-resort policies and the regime for facilitating an orderly resolution of a major non-bank financial institution are critical to our ability to contain financial crises.

In response to this crisis, the Federal Reserve has designed and implemented a number of innovative new facilities for injecting liquidity into the markets. These facilities have played a significant role in easing liquidity strains in markets and we plan to leave them in place until conditions in money and credit markets have improved substantially.

We are also examining what suite of liquidity facilities will be appropriate in the future, with what conditions for access and what oversight requirements to mitigate moral hazard risk. Some of the mechanisms we have employed during this crisis may become permanent parts of our toolkit. Some might be best reserved for the type of acute market illiquidity experienced in this crisis.

It would be helpful for the Federal Reserve System to have greater flexibility to respond to acute liquidity pressure in markets without undermining its capacity to manage the federal funds rates at the FOMC’s (Federal Open Market Committee) target. The authority Congress has granted the Fed to pay interest on reserves beginning in 2011 will be very helpful in this regard. We welcome the fact that Congress is now considering accelerating that authority.

All emphasis is mine. What I wanted to highlight was how central liquidity is to Geithner’s philosphy. It’s the linchpin of his crisis management style, and we are seeing this play out in TALF. Moreover – and this is important – clearly Krugman agreed with this philosophy. He did, after all, refer to this same paper as an illuminating work.

Data point: Krugman and Geither shared a similar “frame” on the crisis.

In fact, as recently as March 17, Krugman was discussing the crisis in terms of liquidity:


How close are we to a liquidity trap?

Here’s one way to think about the liquidity trap – a situation in which conventional monetary policy loses all traction. When short-term interest rates are close to zero, open-market operations in which the central bank prints money and buys government debt don’t do anything, because you’re just swapping one more or less zero-interest rate asset for another. Alternatively, you can say that there’s no incentive to lend out any increase in the monetary base, because the interest rate you get isn’t enough to make it worth bothering

So far so good. But now – now we come to a critical juncture, where the two men diverged. To describe the divergence, I refer to Henry Blodget, who penned a Geithner critique in Business Insider:


Paul Krugman blasts the Obama administration for its startlingly slow and stubborn response to the banking crisis.

And he’s right: Announcing bold change and actually implementing it are two different things.  And so far, with respect to the banks, Obama, Bernanke, and Geithner haven’t done squat.

What they have proposed doing, meanwhile, is based on an incorrect assessment of the problem.

We are not having a “liquidity” crisis in which assets are temporarily worth less than they will be soon.  We are having a solvency crisis: Our mountain of debt is finally collapsing on top of us, and most financial assets are getting crushed.

The answer is almost certainly “pre-privatization”: temporary seizure and restructuring of Citi, et al.  Instead of discussing this option, however, the administration clings to its early assessment of the situation and pretends that seizure means government-controlled banks in perpetuity.

Data point: The administration maintained it’s previously-decided course despite the change in “common wisdom”.

So there we have it. Up to a certain point, presumably late Feb/early March, the common wisdom was that this was a liquidity crisis, that we had to get assets moving. Something changed, and then it became apparent to many that moving assets wasn’t enough, if the assets are worthless. The crit
ique of the Administration was essentially that they did not adapt to the new view.

This latter point is crucial, in my view, for understanding how the two men differ. We’ll revisit it later, but for now let’s examine the second great conflict:

Battle II: THE BUDGET

On Nov 10, a week after the election, Krugman recommended a 600 billion stimulus:

When I put all this together, I conclude that the stimulus package should be at least 4% of GDP, or $600 billion.

That’s twice what the unreliable rumor says. So if there’s any truth to the rumor, my advice to the powers that be (or more accurately will be in a couple of months) is to think hard – you really, really don’t want to lowball this.

Data point: The Administration’s first stimulus exceeded Krugmans advice

As we know now, the Obama Administration seems to have taken Dr. Krugman’s advice. They proposed an $800 billion dollar stimulus, a full 33% larger than Krugman’s recommendation.

On Feb 4, Dr. Krugman critiqued the $800 billion as too small:

I’m still working on the numbers, but I’ve gotten a fair number of requests for comment on the Senate version of the stimulus.

The short answer: to appease the centrists, a plan that was already too small and too focused on ineffective tax cuts has been made significantly smaller, and even more focused on tax cuts.

According to the CBO’s estimates, we’re facing an output shortfall of almost 14% of GDP over the next two years, or around $2 trillion. Others, such as Goldman Sachs, are even more pessimistic. So the original $800 billion plan was too small, especially because a substantial share consisted of tax cuts that probably would have added little to demand. The plan should have been at least 50% larger.

(my emphasis)

Data point: The administration did not meet Krugman’s new recommendation

Now it should be said that the reason for his re-estimate was the new CBO estimates. Both estimates were correct, given the information available at the time.

We should also ask if it’s reasonable for an entire stimulus program to be scrapped, and suddenly upgraded 50%? Those of you who have to put together budgets will understand some of the difficulties involved.

You will note that what we see here is the exact same pattern as the banking crisis fight:

1) Krugman and Geithner start out on the same page

2) Conditions change, and Krugman adapts his advice

3) The administration does not change, or changes insufficiently for Krugman’s taste.

At this point, I think we can make some educated guesses.

CONCLUSIONS: WHY THEY DIFFER

In both cases, what we see is an Administration that agrees with Krugman, but is not as agile as his prescriptions. This does not seem consistent with corruption, or incompetence, or even wildly differing worldviews. In fact, the recent push to acquire receivership powers over AIG indicates that the Administration may indeed still be following Krugman’s path, albeit belatedly.

Krugman is brilliant, and one of the hallmarks of brilliance is the ability to adapt with the times. Perhaps Geithner is highly competent, but simply not as quick-minded as Krugman. Only one of them has a Nobel, after all.

On the other hand, the machinery of a White House administration is not nearly as flexible as the opinions of one mind. There are logistics to any change, and politics involved. Deals that have been struck, and must be reworked. Krugman has long maintained that he prefers to be outside the White House, perhaps it is because he understands how constraining it is. Krugman has a jet-ski, and the White House is stuck with an oil tanker.

In either case it is important to note that both camps agreed on the initial strategies, and only diverged when the environment drastically altered. To my mind, this is the classic tension between the right thing, and the feasible thing.

In an ideal world, the two would always be the same. This isn’t an ideal world, but there is reason to believe that Krugman and the Administration aren’t completely at odds.


20 comments

  1. Krugman has a jet-ski, and the White House is stuck with an oil tanker.

    Assuming for the moment that Krugman is correct in his latest opinion, I don’t think that makes much difference regarding what can be achieved by the government (both legislative and administrative branches) and whether it would even work.  Asking for “$800,000,000,000 – um, no, hang on a minute (hmm, mmm,mmmmm, carry the five…) – make that $1,200,000,000,000” is not only political suicide but could be the kind of speed wobble that plunges consumer confidence off a cliff.  Confidence in the markets and in the administration is the key to fixing the economy no matter whose technical solution is selected, and that means beginning to believe that the folks in charge aren’t groping along the hallway in the dark.

    Economic indicators are beginning to show tentative signs of positivity, and the US population increased savings by $250B in the first two months of the year so renewal doesn’t have to come from credit cards.  We aren’t slaloming this tanker once underway, and we’ve already left the dock, so steady hand on the wheel up there on the bridge thank you very much.

  2. creamer

        Krugman and Blodget don’t have to convince conservative Democrats and moderate Republicans. We were simply not going to get more tha 800 billion, the votes were not there.

     And as Geithner and the White House are now trying to deal with bad assets, Wall Street seem’s to be reacting favorably.

     This morning I watched Krugman on Stephanopolis with Will, Dowd and Cokie Roberts. Everytime one raised the issue of budget deficit’s, Krugman would push back bringing up a modern state with a stable government that ran similar deficit’s and succeeded. So I do think he is helpful to the discussion and to the White House in the long view. I just hope he stays away from colorful language and pushes the debate without seeming to attack his President.

  3. and have a Nobel, but he is only one of dozens of economists with the same experience and education. Every university has several economists on its payroll. He’s also not the only progressive economist out there. Other progressive economists differ with his view of the steps taken so far and also differ with him over Geithner’s plan.

    Krugman’s Nobel was awarded for his work on New Trade Theory. A Nobel is awarded for specific work. It doesn’t imply that a winner is necessarily right when it comes to other areas.

  4. btchakir

    It has been so easy lately for anyone who disagrees with anyone else in politics to label them as radically as possible. In the past week or so, for instance, I’ve heard Obama, with his handling of the Economy and his goals for healthcare and education, called a “socialist”, a “communist”, a “fascist” and other things, some too nasty to mention.

    Both parties (the major, parties, that is… the hundreds of mini-parties, those single-issue groupings of certain individuals, are prime offenders at name calling, but have relatively little effect) are guilty of this kind of stuff… and they do it to themselves as well as the other side (just look at what Republicans are doing to Michael Steele and what Paul Krugman is pumping out about Obama.)

    Perhaps we should look at what “Socialism”, the big bugaboo, would really be… with extremely high taxation funding government management of just about everything… then let’s look at what Obama is intending to do. And maybe we should divorce concepts like “single-payer” healthcare from “socialized medicine”… it’s not. It doesn’t exist as socialism in Canada, or Europe, or even in England where it once came closest of all.

    But lets get beyond the Socio/Political issues. Do any of the politicians know what they are talking about?

    I’ve been watching lots of C-Span lately, seeing Congressional committees interview Secretaries and Generals and consultants about Iranian missile intentions, North Korean atomic plans, getting more heavily involved in Pakistan and Afghanistan (and ignoring our continuing, and highly expensive, presence in Iraq) and I hear questions coming from former mayors who are now Representatives who feel some kind of informed responsibility for letting one country have atomic power and another being denied it. And underneath it is no knowledge.

    And yet we fill the television and radio and net  and paper press with more and more of this stuff. It is soooo depressing.

    Under The LobsterScope

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